hretyc
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 Posted: Friday, 01 June 2007 09:12AM |
This is a continuation of thread Click Here about support for multiple operating systems regarding Dragon Age.
Previously we spoke about which APIs and libraries Bioware might/should use to ease adaption to other systems than Microsoft Windows.
We also had alot of people stating their consent that a Linux or Mac version is needed.
What I would like to discuss this time is the kind of support you would like to see from Bioware if they deliver a (native) Linux/Mac version of Dragon Age.
Is an installer all you're asking for or do you expect further assistance?
Do you think an unsupported installer for alternate systems will alienate users?
Maybe even a simple archive one has to uncompress suffices ... (I would be satisfied by a plain archive) |
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Markpd
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Posted: Friday, 01 June 2007 01:34PM |
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Just saw this thread. Haven't been following pc games much lately because it's not exactly convenient to boot into Windows to play a game. I actually picked up the Platinum version of NWN lately because they were simple to play on Linux. I'll definitely give Dragon Age a harder look if I could play it on Linux. |
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RaglinMason
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Posted: Friday, 01 June 2007 05:25PM |
Currently on our home network both my boys, my wife and I play NWN1 constantly, and we have spare licenses besides (You know, you go to buy the expansion, but platinum or diamond are cheaper than Hordes...).
If DragonAge has a linux client (and preferrably a linux toolset as well), we're definitely on board! |
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b0rsuk
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Posted: Friday, 01 June 2007 07:39PM |
I would be happy with game (archive is fine, I kind of dislike installer 'wizards').
and patches, obviously. That's it. Anything else would be great, especially world editor. I can solve all problems on my own and help other people. |
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DigitalOrigami
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Posted: Friday, 01 June 2007 10:21PM |
Well, as a recent Mac purchaser, I'd love a Mac version. Given that Apple has moved to the Intel chipset, that shouldn't be as tough as it used to be *crosses fingers *
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Mino Lithanos
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Posted: Friday, 01 June 2007 10:36PM |
I would love to see a mac version of really.. any bioware game. Support for both the game AND the toolset would be really great.
Being that I'm new to the mac world I'm not sure how easy it would be to install it if there was no "installer" provided. Though by the time this game comes out I probably will be much more experienced with the OS.
Also, it is more a problem with the fact that most games today are made to play on Direct X which is a Microsoft product and Apple does not support Direct X. Niether has Microsoft decided to make it any easier for us to port games over.
With the inclusion of Intel on the new macs it is possible to boot into Windows. I have no found the time to install Windows on this laptop at the time, nor do I feel I will in the near future, as it looks like it will be a hassle. A few questions would plague me such as how much disk space to reserve it etc etc. As I only have a 111gb on this thing.
Including a mac+linux version would include a number of people who never moved on to Neverwinter Nights 2 because of no port. (Yes I know many people who didn't).
Also if there is multiplayer, linux servers (imo and .. others) have been much more successful than windows based servers.
Just my two cents. |
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Sabon
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Posted: Friday, 01 June 2007 11:53PM |
I'm another person that uses Macs and would like a Mac version.
As well as the install tool to install it. I would also like the automated updated tool like they had in NWN for Windows but not for Mac or Linux.
I would also like the Tools if they have that for the Windows version also.
Other than those, I think that I think just having a forum where Mac users can go to help each other (like they have for NWN, etc.). That way we can do self support and leave BioWare to free up resources to work on other things. Of course we would need them to monitor it just in case it is a programming problem that needs to be addressed.
I've bought all the DND based games that BioWare has made that they've sold for Macs and bought some PC versions which I played on friends computers (but not much).
Hopefully a "thanks in advance for Mac and Linux versions).
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s 9
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Posted: Saturday, 02 June 2007 05:37AM |
I use Mac OS X exclusively, and I'm praying that Bioware will *NOT* find a publisher for a Mac version. Better still would be if they make some hairbrained engineering decision that forces them to deploy only on Windows.
The *LAST* thing I need is the time sink this game will represent if it runs on my operating system natively. I'll never finish anything.Edited By s 9 on 06/02/07 05:37 |
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b0rsuk
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Posted: Saturday, 02 June 2007 08:28AM |
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That's really strange. I don't see 'edit post' button. (Firefox 1.5.0.11). Do they disappear after some time or what ? I just wanted to say I use Linux exclusively. Edited By b0rsuk on 06/02/07 08:29 |
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Deuterium_Dawn
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Posted: Saturday, 02 June 2007 05:02PM |
It dissapears after 4 hours I think. Anyway, I'm a PC user, and I've got nothing against Mac version or a Linux version everyone should be able to play.
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Gvoekle
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Posted: Saturday, 02 June 2007 08:51PM |
Quote: Posted 06/01/07 09:12 (GMT) by hretyc
What I would like to discuss this time is the kind of support you would like to see from Bioware if they deliver a (native) Linux/Mac version of Dragon Age.
Is an installer all you're asking for or do you expect further assistance?
Do you think an unsupported installer for alternate systems will alienate users?
Maybe even a simple archive one has to uncompress suffices ... (I would be satisfied by a plain archive)
I dunno what mac users want, but as far as a linux version goes it's silly to try and support more than one flavor of linux. Linux users tend to know what they're doing, and if the version works on one distro they'll figure out how to get it working on all of them.
If they really wanted to be nice, they could provide rpm and .deb files to cover most distributions, but only support, i.e. test and bug fix, on one distribution. Then provide a self help forum so the community could support getting to work on other distros, and other sorts of issues.
Also, a linux version shouldn't be "officially" supported, and by that I mean you're paying money for it to work on windows, if it doesn't work on your tweaked out gentoo box you shouldn't be entitled to whine about it. This will make it easier for bioware to provide a linux version with minimal resources, and make it more likely that they'll do it again in the future. |
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LadyKalinda
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Posted: Monday, 04 June 2007 04:51PM |
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Although, somebody might've mentioned this but I have a question - I hear DA will be for DirectX 10.. won't that make it hard to run in Linux? I know NWN was DX8.. but I think you can run that pretty easily in Linux now.. or could they make it run with SDL again?
I'm about to install my old copy of NWN on my machine.. I haven't tried it yet.. but I never did finish the game all those ages ago. |
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Defunc7
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Posted: Monday, 04 June 2007 05:28PM |
Quote: Posted 06/04/07 16:51 (GMT) by LadyKalinda
Although, somebody might've mentioned this but I have a question - I hear DA will be for DirectX 10.. won't that make it hard to run in Linux? I know NWN was DX8.. but I think you can run that pretty easily in Linux now.. or could they make it run with SDL again?
Nobody in their right mind is planning to make any DirectX10-only games for upcoming release atm. There's a tiny market due to DX10 being vista-only (while Vista is not selling well) and only supported by a few graphics cards. DA will probably support DX10, but will probably be DX9 compatible too. DX10+ only games are a long way off.
Linux has actually seen a noticable market upturn in stuff like Dell selling machines with it installed (most suppliers are 100% windows), and people considering it as opposed to Vista (which is mostly perceived as a forced upgrade issue by Microsoft, with just a slightly prettier interface).
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Elof Valantor
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Posted: Monday, 04 June 2007 06:51PM |
Quote: Posted 06/04/07 17:28 (GMT) by Defunc7
Nobody in their right mind is planning to make any DirectX10-only games for upcoming release atm.
What makes you think DA is upcoming? It'll be another 3 years at this rate...
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Defunc7
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Posted: Monday, 04 June 2007 07:02PM |
Quote: Posted 06/04/07 18:51 (GMT) by Elof Valantor Quote: Posted 06/04/07 17:28 (GMT) by Defunc7
Nobody in their right mind is planning to make any DirectX10-only games for upcoming release atm.
What makes you think DA is upcoming? It'll be another 3 years at this rate... *cries silently in a corner*
what makes u think Bioware is in their right minds 
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