kytim89
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 Posted: Wednesday, 04 November 2009 11:16PM |
A few months ago, july I believe, I was in the food court at the mall where I am from. I was dining on some chinese food while sitting at a table. I noticed at a table across from me that a family was having trouble with an unruly child. Apparenlty the parents were having some trouble getting the boy, who was named Blake, to eat pizza. The kid seemed like a seven-year-old and he was throwing a tantrum over the food.
While the ordeal was going on, the mother said: "Blake, you're makng mommy very dissapointed with you behavior." The child just shrugged his mother's words off like thye were nothing. The dad just sit there and didn't say anything while his son continued to make a scene and the other people could not help but look over at them in curiosity.
This brings me to two points. One, child worship is becoming an epidemic in today's world. When I was at that age, my dad would have told me to eat my food or else I would not get anything until I did and I shut up and ate the food. Second, it seems as if fathers are not taking steps to keep their kids in line(this is not always the case) and allow their kids to continue with anti-social behavior until they become hoodlums roaming the neighborhood causing trouble for ordinary people. |
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Jonp382
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Posted: Thursday, 05 November 2009 12:06AM |
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I would never force my own child to consume poison. |
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DigitalOrigami
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Posted: Thursday, 05 November 2009 12:35AM |
The problem is trying to talk to a kid like they're an adult and "reasoning" with them. Stupidest idea to ever come down the pipe.
Kid needed to be taken to the car and given a good spanking for that kind of behaviour.
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kytim89
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Posted: Thursday, 05 November 2009 01:40AM |
Quote: Posted 11/05/09 00:35 (GMT) by DigitalOrigami
The problem is trying to talk to a kid like they're an adult and "reasoning" with them. Stupidest idea to ever come down the pipe.
Kid needed to be taken to the car and given a good spanking for that kind of behaviour.
It just caught my attention ath the time because they were making a scene. I have seen a number of occurences like this one. |
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TomHanksSuperActor
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Posted: Thursday, 05 November 2009 03:52AM |
Quote: Posted 11/04/09 23:16 (GMT) by kytim89
This brings me to two points. One, child worship is becoming an epidemic in today's world. When I was at that age, my dad would have told me to eat my food or else I would not get anything until I did and I shut up and ate the food. Second, it seems as if fathers are not taking steps to keep their kids in line(this is not always the case) and allow their kids to continue with anti-social behavior until they become hoodlums roaming the neighborhood causing trouble for ordinary people.
Wow, you really got a lot from the kid not eating his pizza.
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Dahn-Var Starcloak
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Posted: Thursday, 05 November 2009 12:02PM |
Perhaps that pizza had too much salt or something. :S
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Posted: Thursday, 05 November 2009 01:53PM |
The way fathers treat their kids has a lot to do with the way their own fathers treated them. I remember my dad being very calm any time I threw a 5 year old hissy fit and I tried to be the same with my two kids.  |
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kytim89
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Posted: Thursday, 05 November 2009 08:00PM |
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Let's assume that you're in a game store, maybe Game Stop, and you are waiting in line to buy a mature game, Let's say Left 4 Dead 2. Suddenly somepne's kid notices the game and he begs his mother to buy the mature rated game for him. The kid throws a tantrum for the game, but his mother refuses on the grounds that the game has too much blood, gore, violence, etc. However, instead of allowing you, the purchaser, to just buy the game, she claims that if you don't buy the game it removes the possibility of her kid from wanting the game for himself. The woman goes to found an organization that removes all mature rated out of stores and no one, regardless of age, are allowed to buy them and your rights as a consumer and free choice are sent down the toilet. |
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Dahn-Var Starcloak
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Posted: Thursday, 05 November 2009 08:11PM |
Quote: Posted 11/05/09 20:00 (GMT) by kytim89
Let's assume that you're in a game store, maybe Game Stop, and you are waiting in line to buy a mature game, Let's say Left 4 Dead 2. Suddenly somepne's kid notices the game and he begs his mother to buy the mature rated game for him. The kid throws a tantrum for the game, but his mother refuses on the grounds that the game has too much blood, gore, violence, etc. However, instead of allowing you, the purchaser, to just buy the game, she claims that if you don't buy the game it removes the possibility of her kid from wanting the game for himself. The woman goes to found an organization that removes all mature rated out of stores and no one, regardless of age, are allowed to buy them and your rights as a consumer and free choice are sent down the toilet.
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Posted: Thursday, 05 November 2009 08:28PM |
Quote: Posted 11/05/09 20:00 (GMT) by kytim89
Let's assume that you're in a game store, maybe Game Stop, and you are waiting in line to buy a mature game, Let's say Left 4 Dead 2. Suddenly somepne's kid notices the game and he begs his mother to buy the mature rated game for him. The kid throws a tantrum for the game, but his mother refuses on the grounds that the game has too much blood, gore, violence, etc. However, instead of allowing you, the purchaser, to just buy the game, she claims that if you don't buy the game it removes the possibility of her kid from wanting the game for himself. The woman goes to found an organization that removes all mature rated out of stores and no one, regardless of age, are allowed to buy them and your rights as a consumer and free choice are sent down the toilet.
You probably do not want to visit Australia.
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kytim89
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Posted: Thursday, 05 November 2009 10:58PM |
Quote: Posted 11/05/09 20:28 (GMT) by Quixal Quote: Posted 11/05/09 20:00 (GMT) by kytim89
Let's assume that you're in a game store, maybe Game Stop, and you are waiting in line to buy a mature game, Let's say Left 4 Dead 2. Suddenly somepne's kid notices the game and he begs his mother to buy the mature rated game for him. The kid throws a tantrum for the game, but his mother refuses on the grounds that the game has too much blood, gore, violence, etc. However, instead of allowing you, the purchaser, to just buy the game, she claims that if you don't buy the game it removes the possibility of her kid from wanting the game for himself. The woman goes to found an organization that removes all mature rated out of stores and no one, regardless of age, are allowed to buy them and your rights as a consumer and free choice are sent down the toilet.
You probably do not want to visit Australia.
What do you mean? |
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stevej71393
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Posted: Friday, 06 November 2009 04:17AM |
I've seen this before, many times. It's becoming a crime to discipline your kids. Nowadays, you can't punish them, you give them a "time-out". I know that the metal fly-swatter wasn't exactly fun when I was a kid, but now I realize it sure did keep me in line.
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Jah77
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Posted: Friday, 06 November 2009 09:34AM |
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Discipline doesn't have to involve physical violence. My parents never hit me when I was a kid, but that doesn't mean they let me do anything I wanted, or that they didn't set me clear limits. |
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Quixal
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Posted: Friday, 06 November 2009 03:27PM |
Quote: Posted 11/05/09 22:58 (GMT) by kytim89 Quote: Posted 11/05/09 20:28 (GMT) by Quixal
You probably do not want to visit Australia.
What do you mean?
The rating system there doesn't have an adult catagory so if if a game is deemed unsuitable for a child it is unsuitable for the country. You just can't get certain games there.
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AutumnFire28
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Posted: Friday, 06 November 2009 03:53PM |
Keep in mind that raising children is a lot harder than it seems. It kind of sounds like good, consistant discipline was never instituted from the beginning, and thus they get the tantruming seven-year-old in the mall.
Quote: Posted 11/04/09 23:16 (GMT) by kytim89
This brings me to two points. One, child worship is becoming an epidemic in today's world. When I was at that age, my dad would have told me to eat my food or else I would not get anything until I did and I shut up and ate the food.
That may have worked for you, but trust me, that doesn't work for all children.
Quote: Posted 11/05/09 00:35 (GMT) by DigitalOrigami
The problem is trying to talk to a kid like they're an adult and "reasoning" with them. Stupidest idea to ever come down the pipe.
Kid needed to be taken to the car and given a good spanking for that kind of behaviour.
I respectfully disagree...spanking is usually not the best method of discipline, and you can certainly begin to teach your child the concept of consequences as early as two-years-old. The danger of spanking is that, too often, an adult will be so frustrated with their child's behavior, that they end up taking that frustration out on their child's butt. It's an easy out, and in the end, it doesn't really teach the child the appropriate way to behave in certain situations. Although they've certainly received a consequence, even spanking can lose it's effectiveness if it occurs too often.
It's actually proven that positive reinforcement is more effective than punishment (aka spanking), but I personally believe in a mixture of providing consequences, as well as positive reinforcement as an approach to child discipline.
As per the above example, sometimes ignoring an undesirable behavior is best. Kids can sometimes thrive off of attention, even if it's negative. It doesn't make sense to an adult, but it's true nonetheless. If it were me in that situation, I wouldn't force the issue of making the child eat, however afterwards, I would treat myself/husband and/or the child's sibling to an ice-cream cone as a 'reward' for eating the food. The tantruming child would, of course, be excluded from that reward, and it would be made clear that 'little boys/girls that don't finish their dinner do not get ice cream'. Next time they go to the mall, before eating the choice and consequences should be made clear to the child beforehand: "You can choose to eat quietly, or you can choose to not have ice cream. It's your choice."
That's really an oversimplification, but the problem is, that many parents who have never had any real experience with small children very often simply don't know how to handle behaviors like that. There isn't a quick-fix to child-discipline, and it is kind of sad that people will put more effort into researching their next vehicle than how to properly discipline their kids. |
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