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Aratham Darksight
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Joined: 13 Sep 2004
From: Hungary
Posted: Sunday, 16 December 2007 01:20PM
I'm pretty sure Scott recognised the line as a Star Wars quote (seeing how he responded with another pop culture quote). It's just that since quoting Star Wars stopped being funny in and of itself a while ago, one might assume that Nighteye also meant it.
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Posted: Sunday, 16 December 2007 07:57PM
I don't see why there can't be both. A great and engaging story with replayability but also a toolset.
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Posted: Monday, 17 December 2007 08:45AM
I can't even put it into words. So depressing.
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Willpower-in-Japan
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Posted: Monday, 17 December 2007 12:08PM
Quote: Posted 12/17/07 08:45 (GMT) by JWBurks

I can't even put it into words. So depressing.

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huh?
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Scott Meadows
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Posted: Monday, 17 December 2007 02:40PM
I am not bragging, actually it's kinda depressing...

But I saw the First Star Wars in the theatre when it first came out. sigh

And to JWBurks: Huh?
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Ranlas
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Posted: Monday, 17 December 2007 03:46PM
I'm curious. For what reasons would a game company not release their toolset? Some standard of quality that the toolset doesn't meet? Not wanting to have to support it at all?
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Edited By Ranlas on 12/17/07 15:47

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DigitalOrigami
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Posted: Monday, 17 December 2007 04:05PM
Quote: Posted 12/17/07 14:40 (GMT) by Scott Meadows

I am not bragging, actually it's kinda depressing...

But I saw the First Star Wars in the theatre when it first came out. sigh

Same here....
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David Gaider
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Joined: 17 Oct 2001
From: Edmonton, AB
Posted: Monday, 17 December 2007 04:06PM
Quote: Posted 12/17/07 15:46 (GMT) by Ranlas
I'm curious. For what reasons would a game company not release their toolset? Some standard of quality that the toolset doesn't meet? Not wanting to have to support it at all?
If you're going to put a toolset out there, you want it in a shape so that it would be useable by the general public. And, yes, it would have to be supported. Since the focus of DA is not on having a toolset, it's not going to get as much attention as the game itself is getting -- but that's not to say that we don't want to put it out there. Just that it's too early for us at the moment to judge when & how.
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Lord_Trotwell
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Posted: Wednesday, 19 December 2007 03:59PM
I understand if you don't want to give support for toolset, but for goodness sake can't you just put it in some secret, hidden place and give out the url in some abstract puzzle...

Why witheld it, it's not like it would hurt your sales to have some community made modifications avaible, even if the editor itself isn't usable by the general public...
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LdyShayna
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Joined: 18 Oct 2001
From: Colorado
Posted: Wednesday, 19 December 2007 04:17PM
Quote: Posted 12/19/07 15:59 (GMT) by Lord_Trotwell
Why witheld it, it's not like it would hurt your sales to have some community made modifications avaible, even if the editor itself isn't usable by the general public...

Because people WOULD demand support for it if it was officially released, whether from a hidden URL or no. They would. And support costs money, both by the developer and by the frequently unwilling publisher. And if they refused to offer support, they would get ripped into hither and yon.

It's not that they definitely should not release it, but there are reasons.
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David Gaider
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Joined: 17 Oct 2001
From: Edmonton, AB
Posted: Wednesday, 19 December 2007 04:19PM
Quote: Posted 12/19/07 15:59 (GMT) by Lord_Trotwell
I understand if you don't want to give support for toolset, but for goodness sake can't you just put it in some secret, hidden place and give out the url in some abstract puzzle...

Why witheld it, it's not like it would hurt your sales to have some community made modifications avaible, even if the editor itself isn't usable by the general public...
Err... did we say we would withhold it? You're not talking to a company that doesn't know the value of a modding community, after all. All I'm saying is that whenever we put it out, it's going to work. If we really decide not to put the toolset out there, it's probably because it wouldn't benefit anyone -- not even hidden away secretly somewhere.
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Edited By David Gaider on 12/19/07 16:19

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Chris Priestly
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Joined: 17 Oct 2001
From: Behind an Evil desk in Marketing
Posted: Wednesday, 19 December 2007 04:20PM
The important thing for EVERYONE to remember here is that everything is still in the works and no decisions have been made yet. So don't get over emotional one way or the other as nothing has been set in stone regarding toolset, support, release, etc, yet.

When we do have news about Dragon Age and/or a toolset for DA, we'll make it known. Stay tuned.



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LdyShayna
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Joined: 18 Oct 2001
From: Colorado
Posted: Wednesday, 19 December 2007 04:22PM
Quote: Posted 12/19/07 16:20 (GMT) by Chris Priestly
So don't get over emotional one way or the other

Bah. What's the fun in that?
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Lightzy
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Posted: Wednesday, 19 December 2007 08:16PM
The only reason im in this forum and caring about DA in the first place is NWNs editor and DM tools.
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ABWaters
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Posted: Wednesday, 19 December 2007 08:36PM
Is multiplayer still planned?
Is the DM client still planned?

I was browsing the compiled Bio posts at Dragon Age central and someone said that a DM tool would come with it, but it was a few years ago.

So even if the mod toolset is up in the air, might it still be possible to DM the game while friends make their way through the adventure?
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